Modem nece da bira broj ISP-a

Ispod Init2 dodaj liniju Init3 = ATX3
Ako ne bude radilo, javi se pa ću ja ovde da pošaljem moj wvdial.conf koji
provereno radi.

Mada, sada kada ti je wvdialconf pogodio podešavanja, možeš da se potrudiš, i
da na osnovu njih podesiš i KPPP, koji je intuitivniji za korišćenje od
komandne linije. Sada već znamo da modem može da radi lepo, i da su moduli
učitani u kernel.

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i meni se desava se desava nesto slicno...samo sto kad startujem wvdial komp se potpuno blokira....takodje moram da ucitavam drajvere svaki put manuelno jer ./autoload izgleda da ne redi.sa komandom lsmod izlistani su moduli i dva od njih su lt_modem.o i lt_serial.o...iz kppp-a nadje modem (inace on se nalazi na ttyS0 (!?))->looking for modem->modem ok->initializing modem.... i tako se vise nista ne desava...probao sam masu kombinacija podesavanja ali nista se ne desava....da li sam napomenuo da kod mene ne postoji wvdial.conf (?!)

pomozite ljudi!!!

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Koliko je meni poznato, to sto ti dobijas ide i na prazan port. Modem NIJE ukljucen na com port a masina nesto kao pokrece ili javlja da je modem zauzet. To nista ne vredi. Obavezno probaj iz kppp Query, ako tu ne dobijes nista, onda ti modem nije na tom mestu. On mora da bude u kppp na Device -> dev/modem. Kao sto sam pre rekao, najvaznije je da podesis dinamicku IP adresu, inace ne mrda. Naravno, ako Query ne pokazuje nista na dev/modem, onda ti ne vredi nikakva IP adresa.

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kada sam instalirao drajvere dobio sam obavestenje da je ttyLT0 linkovan na dev/modem (ili obrnuto ?!),medjutim jedino kada iz kppp-a stavim na ttyS0 onda se nesto desava,na ostalim portovima uredno mi se kaze da nema uredjaja ili sl.probacu sa tom dinamickom adresom,mada mislim da sam tako i podesio....smara me sto moram da se vracam u xp da bi se kacio na net->koje smaranje!

zaboravio sam da napomenem da uradim query iz kppp-a i da se nesto kao provera i na kraju mi pokaze prozor na kome su ispisane AT1,AT2...kolone koje su prazne...

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Query se odnosi na onaj uredjaj koji je izabran. Recimo, ako si izabrao dev/modem, on ti pokazuje podatke samo za taj uredjaj. Alko si stavio na ttyS0 i pokazuje ti prazne vrednosti, to je mozda ono da tamo nema uredjaja. Znaci, ides redom, uredjaj po uredjaj i radis Query.

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ako izaberem dev/modem komp mi se zablokira.STRASNO!

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Kada sam u wvdial dodao komandu Init3 = ATX3 prestao je da trazi dial tone ali sad se javlja nova poruka: NO CARRIER.U kppp-u sam izvrsio sve moguce kombinacije i nije hteo da proradi.Koristim Verat i PTT i ne znam da li je PAP ili CHAP?Inace,kad pokrenem modem kompjuter se strahovito uspori(Athlon 1700+,256 MB).

Dodaj Stupid Mode = 1 u wvdial.conf. Ili beše sastavljeno? StupidMode = 1

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to stoji kod tebe?!
pa dobro mislim,kod mene toga nema,a nece ni biti.

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Nisam razumeo baš najbolje. Zašto neće biti? Misliš da te zezam? To je sasvim regularna opcija, a da li će biti neophodna to zavisi od tvog ISP-a.

Evo šta o tome kaže "man wvdial.conf":

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@biotech: Meni se takodje ucinilo da mislis da te zafrkava. Shvatam tvoje nezadovoljstvo sto ti modem ne radi i zao mi je sto ne mozemo vise da pomognemo, ali niko sebi ne bi dozvolio da te ovako zafrkava, da je zafrkancija.

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Nece,nece i nece.Dodao sam Stupid Mode = 1 i nece.Opet mi izbacuje no carrier.Probao sam tu komandu da stavim na razna mesta u wvdial.conf i opet nista.Modem se uopste ne cuje.Citao sam na ovom forumu da je to zato sto zvuk iz modema ide preko zvucne kartice ali je to za glupi windows.

Dodao sam u wvdial.conf i Carrier Check = 1 i opet nista.Uopste nece da okrene broj ISP-a(ni Verata ni PTT-a).Nije moguce da niko ne zna sta da uradim?!

1. wvdial je jedan od retkih programa koji cak i njegovi autori nazivaju "inteligentni" program. Kod mnogih drugih programa imas mogucnosti podesavanja, preradjivanja, promena... a kod ovoga - nista. On ili radi, ili ne. Ne mogu sada da skidam wvdial da bih ti tacno citirao taj deo, a mozes i ti da pogleda sam u readme ili slican fajl. Zbog toga mislim da je kppp mnogo bolji za nejasne slucajeve. Uradis Query i ako nema nicega, onda drajver nije instaliran, ili nije dobro instaliran ili nesto slicno. Nista ne vredi podesavati wvdial ako drajver nije OK.

2. jedva sam nasao slike svog modema, evo adrese: http://www.mepislovers.org/mod...p;post_id=38986#forumpost38986
Na veliku zalost, ne mogu da nadjem temu na ES-u gde sam takodje stavio te slike, ne zbog slika, nego zbog oznaka cipova koje je jedan kolega napisao i koji su jasno govorili o tome koji modem radi po Linuxom iz Lucent / Agere porodice, a koji ne.

Zbog toga ti mogu reci samo sledece: pogledaj svoj modem fizicki - ako ima mnogo manje delova od ovoga na slikama, onda je moguce da se radi o potpuno softverskom modemu i tu je kraj price. Takav modem ne radi pod Linuxom, bar koliko je meni poznato. Na mojoj slici mozes primetiti jedan okrugli predmet dole levo = zvucnik, dva poveca cipa, transformator i jos neke delove. Slika nije bas OK, ali za pribliznu identifikaciju je dobra. Softverski modem bi trebalo da ima mnogo manje delova od ovoga. Nesto sam nasao na netu i evo prilozicu ga ovde. Ne mogu nista kategoricki da tvrdim, ali to su neka opsta saznanja ili smernice.

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@mmirilovic

...eto vidis sta su pocetnici...oprosti.

nego,stvarno podesiti ovaj modem je za mene naucna fantastika...vidis ja imam dva lucent modema..jedan sam uspeo da poteram a drugi ne(drugi je u notebook-u).probao sam dosta drajvera proradio je ltmodem-8.31a10 kernel 2.4.27,znaci ovako:
./build_module
./ltinst2.
/autoload

na komandu lsmod ne prikazuje ucitane module
prikazuje ih samo ako uradim insmod lt_modem.o (uz upozerenje kernel will be tainted
ili tako nesto....


i lt_serial.o

kaze mi da koristim visu verziju gcc kompajlera (3.3) nego sto treba(2.95)

ipak sve je proradilo i visio sam na netu i znam da moze da radi ali pri sledecem restartu svaki put se zamrzene ako pokrenem Kppp->connect(takodje i uz komandu wvdial)

znam da moze da radi ali nemogu vise da ga poteram,postoji li neki metod da se potpuno uklone drajveri-i krene sve ispoctka a da nije reinstalacija celog sistema?
ili mozda da se nekako prebacim na stariji kompajler pa onda da probam sa novim drajverima.kako to uraditi gcc->2.95???

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tdjokic: wvdial nije "inteligentan" program, već najobičniji konzolni dialer.
On slepo prati opcija sadržanih u /etc/wvdial.conf. I sve opcije koje su
validne u KPPP-u važe i u wvdial.conf, i obratno. Ja sam uvek pristalica
korišćenja grafičkih programa kao što je KPPP, pre nego konzolnih. Ali kada
treba dijagnostikovati gde je problem, onda je konzola od velike pomoći, jer
se u konzoli dobijaju detaljnije poruke o grešci. I kada se problem reši,
opcije i podešavanja se lako "portuju" u grafičko okruženje.

biotech i Dr Darko: Sa http://linmodems.technion.ac.il skinite program
ScanModem i pokrenite ga iz konzole, možda čipsetovi vaših modema nisu ni
podržani?

biotech: Postuj ovde upozorenje o kompajleru koju si dobio prilikom
instalacije modema. Takođe, jesi li siguran da verzija drajvera za tvoj modem
sigurno odgovara verziji tvog kernela?

Dr Darko: Pošalji sadržaj tvog wvdial.conf-a. Naravno izbriši svoj password iz
njega!

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ovo je sa jedne stranice koja se bavi ovom problematikom:

Odds and ends:

Compiler gcc with version 3 or later do NOT yet output functional drivers.

Only one Lucent DSP modem is supported on a single PC, though as of September 2001 work is in progress to achieve multiple modem support.

ovo izgleda moj slucaj.evo ga link:
http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/Ltmodem.html

zna li neko kako kompajlirati drajvere sa gcc 2.95 ili nesto tako (imam gcc 3.3)

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evo ga i link sa foruma koji to jasno pokazuje:

http://linmodems.org/cgi-bin/e...85:200203:adnbgbepnikppjandped

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Ja se u to ne razumem, samo sam naveo sta sam procitao u jednom od fajlova koji dodju uz wvdial. A evo, na brzinu sam naso i ovo:

http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linuxcommand.org/man_pages/wvdial1.html

wvdial is an intelligent PPP dialer, which means that it dials a modem
and starts PPP in order to connect to the Internet. It is something
like the chat(8) program, except that it uses heuristics to guess how
to dial and log into your server rather than forcing you to write a
login script.

"Intelligent" programs are frustrating when they don’t work right.
This version of wvdial has only minimal support for disabling or over-
riding its "intelligence", with the "Stupid Mode", "Login Prompt", and
"Password Prompt" options. So, in general if you have a nice ISP, it
will probably work, and if you have a weird ISP, it might not.

Ako ovi kazu jedno, a ti drugo, to je izmedju vas, ja se u to ne mesam. Moja namera sa ovom primedbom je bila da ljude uputim na prostiji put, mozda ne bas strogo po teoriji, ali efikasniji.

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Uspeo sam da ga poteram

evo podataka sa ./scanModem



DO use the following line as the email Subject Line, to alert cogent experts:
scanModem, Debian GNU/Linux kernel 2.4.27
Occassionally reponses are blocked by an Internet Providers mail filters.
So do in a day also check the Archived responses at [email protected]
Code updated on: 2005_March_3
------------ -------------- System information ------------------------
Debian GNU/Linux 3.1
on System with processor: i686
currently under kernel: 2.4.27
The kernel was assembled with compiler: 2.95.4
with current System compiler GCC=3.3.5
/usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-3.3

Checking for kernel-headers needed for compiling.
kernel-headers have base folder /lib/modules/2.4.27/build
kernel-headers have base folder /usr/src/linux
kernel-headers have base folder /usr/src/linux-2.4.27

Modem symbolic link is: /dev/modem -> /dev/ttyLT0
Checking for USB modems
None found

Modem candidates are at PCI_buses: 0000:01:07.0

Providing detail for device at PCI_bus 0000:01:07.0
with vendor-ID:device-ID
----:----
Class 0780: 11c1:044c Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics LT WinModem (rev 02)
SubSystem 11c1:044c Lucent Microelectronics LT WinModem
0000:01:07.0 0780: 11c1:044c (rev 02)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
Memory at ea000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
I/O ports at c000 [size=8]

-----PCI_IDs------- --CompilerVer-
Feature List: Primary Subsystem Distr KernelVer kernel default CPU
./scanModem test 11c1:044c 11c1:044c knoppix 2.4.27 2.95.4 3.3.5 i686

== Checking PCI IDs through modem chip suppliers ==

The modem has a supported Lucent/Agere DSP (digital signal processing) chipset
with primary PCI_ID: 11c1:044c
DSP=1

Vendor 11c1 corresponds to Lucent Technologies or subsidiary Agere Systems, Inc.
Information is at: http://www.agere.com/client/modem_dsp.html. Produced are both:
1) modems identifiable from their primary PCI IDs and
2) soft modem Subystem chips requiring identification through codec readouts.

Call waiting specified by, +pcw=1, is not implmented in the ltmodem drivers.
Configuration with forcing is described in: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/archive-fifth/msg00055.html
0x044c -- Mars 3 Perseus data/fax only:North America and Global board
0x044c -- Mars 3.2 Mercury data fax only when no eeprom is present, North America DAA


The desired installer name is like:
========================================
----------------------------------------
ltmodem-kv-Kernel_FL-LTver--.CPU.rpm explains the versioning.
For your System
Kernel_FL is 2.4.27 , the full kernel version displayed by: uname -r
LTver is 8.31a9, the release of the compiler kit
8.nn is the Agere core code designation.
The proccesor type or CPU is: i686 dispayed by: uname -m
used in compiling and assembling driver packages.


A suitable installer is not available as of this 2005_March_3 update.
Check in the section knoppix at http://ltmodem.heby.de/
for a subsequent Installer submission.
Older releases have been archived at:
http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/archive/
Also there is a RPM search engine at: http://rpm.pbone.net
The closest match to your i686=CPU is recommended.
The closest match to your i686=CPU is recommended.
For example replacements in order of preference for an
i686 would be i586, i486 and i386
If not present use the ltmodem-8.31a9.tar.gz compiler kit.

The list of available Installers for knoppix as of this 2005_March_3
is inserted into to Modem/General.txt
======= PCI_ID checking completed ======
Update=2005_March_3
A PCMCIA CardBus is not detected on this System.
The following information blocks just query some ppp support items.

====================================================
grep -rs ppp /etc/modules.conf
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alias net-pf-24 pppoe
alias char-major-108 ppp_generic
alias /dev/ppp ppp_generic
alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async
alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty
alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate
### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/ppp
alias /dev/ppp ppp_generic
alias char-major-108 ppp_generic
alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async
alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty
alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate
### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/ppp
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Resident PPP support modules are properly uncompressed .
COMM services are not active
DEVPPP=crw------- 1 root dip 108, 0 May 15 2001 /dev/ppp

The current modem symbolic link is: /dev/modem -> /dev/ttyLT0
The ports /dev/ttyS0 or 1,2,3 are for standard Controller chip modems


No devfsd.conf file found, indicated absense of the devfsd daemon package
for device file system (devfs) symbolic link support.

DEVFSD=
---- dmesg queries -------
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=Linux(2.4)-1 ro root=305 ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=de apm=power-off nomce quiet lang=us
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK2] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK3] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK5] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LAPU] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LMCI] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LFIR] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [L3CM] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LIDE] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC1] (IRQs *16), disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC2] (IRQs *17), disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC3] (IRQs *18), disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC4] (IRQs *19), disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC5] (IRQs *16), disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCF] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCG] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCH] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCI] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCJ] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCK] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCS] (IRQs *23), disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCL] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCM] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [AP3C] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCZ] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.

Packages with precompiled drivers for Lucent/Agere DSP modems
and SmartLink supported soft modes are available in
http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/Knoppix/


The bootable CDs of Knoppix releases 3.4 and 3.6 have boot kernels 2.4.26 and 2.4.27
These CDs are currently Hostile to winmodem installations for at least 3 reasons.
1) The kernels were compiled with gcc-2.95. While there is provided a /usr/bin/gcc-2.95
the default ggc found by compilers is set as:
/usr/bin/gcc --> /usr/bin/gcc-3.3
Thus with casual usage of many winmodem driver packages,
the drivers will be compiled with gcc-3.3 . Such mismatches between
a kernel and driver can cause a system CRASH.
Thus special effort is required to insure that driver compiles utilize the gcc-2.95
2) Winmodem packages typically try to write drivers to /usr/lib/
and installation files to /usr/sbin/ folders.
But these folders are positioned on the ReadOnly CD, and the writes will fail;
3) Since compiled drivers cannot be placed in /lib/modules/,
they are not perceived by a dependencies reading:
depmod -a
which would enable simple driver loading on demand or with a single:
modprobe Last_Modem_Driver
A Bug Report/offer to help Knoppix with these problems has been filed.


iz ovih podataka se vidi da za modem postoje drajveri.imam instaliran knoppix 3.7 na hdd i uradio sam sledece:

uzeo sam lt_modem_knoppix_2.4.27
raspakovao,ucitao sa insmod lt_modem.o i insmod lt_serial.o i startovao Kppp i RADI!!!

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